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Yes she's back and my word she's really surpassed herself! No really. That post she mistakenly posted to ROG-L is a work of deranged genius...wow...I highly recommend everyone go and join the list just to read this post. Its the best example of pseudo intellectual masturbation I've seen for.....oh well since last time J-Blo posted.
I was *particularly* taken with this bit:
"Let's see, what else.... Unilevel people also do not like it when multilevel people talk about gender roles in slash. (Because it makes slash fic sound so, you know, derivative.) Unilevel slash writers/readers just want the sex - hard core, PWP - not *only* because the highest chakra they can imagine from personal experience is the one that makes you "wet," but because they literally cannot *see* all the multilevel rainbow shades that flicker and pulse between friendship and romantic love. Where I see a broad, beautiful spectrum, with potentials for seduction, self-delusion, confusion, joy, beauty, mixed messages, flirtation, questioning of *identity* and sexuality -- all *they* see (all unilevel sheeple see) is an On-Off switch. Duncan and Methos *aren't* doing it, and then, magic presto, with a flick of the switch, they ARE. Off/On. No/Yes. "I don't think so,"/"Yeah, baby!" Unilevel/different unilevel. Bypassing all the lovely multilevels in between. So I guess I'll never get to read Duncan yielding to temptation slowly, or Methos willfully seducing him,or Methos growing and changing by messy, lively, spontaneous stages. Because all those things -- so alive inside my head -- are invisible to the people writing fic, the entrenched fans. (Virtually synonymous with unilevel.) Sigh. And then, of course, there's the On-Off switch between gay and straight. Orientation, don't you know? "Preference" is now passe, because *preference* carries too much potential for multilevel awareness and experience -- potential for experimenting, and for changing your mind, and (worst of all) potential for LOVE mattering more than gender, more than preference. (There you go with those vertical dimensions again.) No, we can't have that. Everything must be hardwired, now. Orientation. That's the ticket. So forget about stories where Duncan really IS, by 400 years of preference, *straight,* and he learns to love Methos as an acquired taste. That would represent a vertical change in Duncan. We can't have that because fic authors can't *imagine* it. (Learning a new trick or a new kink is horizontal, which is what unilevel people write. Off/On. A simple, linear change. *Keeping* the original preference but adding a new aspect is vertical, requiring a sort of double vision -- i.e., Duncan as an innately *straight* man and lover of women, who also, for whatever reasons, loves Methos.)"
...really, there are *no* words...
I *so* now need an icon which says "Unilevel Sheeple" on it. Preferably with some suitably porny background image? *grins*
I was *particularly* taken with this bit:
"Let's see, what else.... Unilevel people also do not like it when multilevel people talk about gender roles in slash. (Because it makes slash fic sound so, you know, derivative.) Unilevel slash writers/readers just want the sex - hard core, PWP - not *only* because the highest chakra they can imagine from personal experience is the one that makes you "wet," but because they literally cannot *see* all the multilevel rainbow shades that flicker and pulse between friendship and romantic love. Where I see a broad, beautiful spectrum, with potentials for seduction, self-delusion, confusion, joy, beauty, mixed messages, flirtation, questioning of *identity* and sexuality -- all *they* see (all unilevel sheeple see) is an On-Off switch. Duncan and Methos *aren't* doing it, and then, magic presto, with a flick of the switch, they ARE. Off/On. No/Yes. "I don't think so,"/"Yeah, baby!" Unilevel/different unilevel. Bypassing all the lovely multilevels in between. So I guess I'll never get to read Duncan yielding to temptation slowly, or Methos willfully seducing him,or Methos growing and changing by messy, lively, spontaneous stages. Because all those things -- so alive inside my head -- are invisible to the people writing fic, the entrenched fans. (Virtually synonymous with unilevel.) Sigh. And then, of course, there's the On-Off switch between gay and straight. Orientation, don't you know? "Preference" is now passe, because *preference* carries too much potential for multilevel awareness and experience -- potential for experimenting, and for changing your mind, and (worst of all) potential for LOVE mattering more than gender, more than preference. (There you go with those vertical dimensions again.) No, we can't have that. Everything must be hardwired, now. Orientation. That's the ticket. So forget about stories where Duncan really IS, by 400 years of preference, *straight,* and he learns to love Methos as an acquired taste. That would represent a vertical change in Duncan. We can't have that because fic authors can't *imagine* it. (Learning a new trick or a new kink is horizontal, which is what unilevel people write. Off/On. A simple, linear change. *Keeping* the original preference but adding a new aspect is vertical, requiring a sort of double vision -- i.e., Duncan as an innately *straight* man and lover of women, who also, for whatever reasons, loves Methos.)"
...really, there are *no* words...
I *so* now need an icon which says "Unilevel Sheeple" on it. Preferably with some suitably porny background image? *grins*
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I'm just *amazed*
I mean really....wow...its not often I'm left speechless by someone's ego but well...
Its also bloody funny as well...
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You mean like the one on this comment? :)
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*snogs Tritorella*
*snorts coffee everywhere*
I love you! That is just too wonderful for words!
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Icons will follow shortly.
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Yeah I saw that..
I was actualy seriously pissed about that but not sure what to do..the mods of ROG-L better ban her for that you know. Plus did you see what she said about Taz? If that was me, I'd be going bananas.
So she's banned from ODM? May I do the happy dance?
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Multilevel rainbow shades. I'm kind of stuck there.
Multilevel rainbow shades. The fuck?
Levels? Verticals, horizontals? Exactly what kind of queer theory does she purport this to be?
Or wait, no -- what she wants to read is a straight Duncan deciding that he's not gay, he just loves Methos, right? Which really doesn't strike me as anything approaching a queer reading of the show, and why am I attempting to apply logic to someone who could seriously use the term "multilevel rainbow shades"?
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But at least anyone who had a skerrick of sympathy for her newbie status will have had that burned away by that email. That was truly vicious, malicious and mendacious, and even though it was on ROG, it clearly infringed the rules of ODM too.
I still cling to my original position that she is mentally ill. That doesn't make her more pleasant or tolerable - only that she just can't help being stupid. However, she's got enough control over her actions to be sly, so I have no sympathy for her obvious derangement. It's a case of do what you like, just do it somewhere else, as far as I'm concerned. Thank fuck she's too much of a snob to even get interested in anime fandom. There's plenty of bitches there too, but since they have the mental age of three year olds, one can't really be that bothered by them
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The icons are fantastic. I'll say one thing for J-Blo she certainly gets everyone being wonderfully creative *grins*
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I bet this woman is actually considered an intellectual in her own strange circles. People probably just sit there and nod and go 'wtf' to themselves as they wince and shift about from not having used lube during sex the night before.
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You should *see* the rest of it..
"So let's just take a quick review of the things that upset people around here:
1) The suggestion that Methos may have been the leader of the Horsemen. Why is that upsetting, you may ask? (And a very good question it would be, too!) Well, let's see. If Methos led the Horsemen, and after that he grew, changed, befriended Socrates, changed again, and generally *evolved* along with Western civilization .... well, that would have to be not only a multileveled, multifaceted Methos, but a Methos who recognized the *VERTICAL* dimension of better and worse -- and who was able to move toward the good. People who do not see multilevels do not recognize the vertical, and do not themselves evolve and grow in this way. Instead, they prefer a vision of Methos which *they* (to the best of their miniscule comprehension) feel to be "complex" and "divided" -- that is, the vision that Methos is always (*always*- now, last century, 1000 years ago and 5000 years ago) the same admixture of half dangerous and half victim. Then they pronounce this narrow, visionless, FLAT version of Methos to be the "right" one (what they love most is to be *right*), and yell insults at any insight exceeding their own, calling anything they don't understand "boring."
2) Tic Tac Toe. Tic Tac Toe is, of course, understandably upsetting. As soon as you talk about different ways of "winning" you have to think about different hierarchies (that pesky vertical dimension thing again) of values. Some fans have demonstrated that they will resort to gibberish, baby talk, and crude jokes, sooner than contemplate thinking *vertically* outside the box. Which is precisely WHY most of these people will *never* grok Methos. They *can't.* Methos is a wide-angle consciousness kind of guy, and too many people suffer from a terminal condition of "mind-forged manacles."
3) Chakras. Most, *most* upsetting of all is any discussion of chakras. Chakras, you know, are intrinsically a vertical hierarchy. Mention chakras, and you'll get death threats, this is one of the things I've learned. "Kink," by contrast, is unilevel. Flat. Linear. Dull. Superficial. Kink "pushes the boundaries" on only one level -- horizontally. Now, let's look at this rationally for a moment, can we? (Probably not, but one can always hope.) If I had said, for example, something vague, like, "I don't really think kink-fic is generally well written..." Or, no. Even that wouldn't have been vague enough, would it, because as soon as you talk about *quality* you are talking about a vertical dimension (i.e., a multilevel). But I might have gotten away with saying, "kinkfic doesn't hold my interest." Then, you know, they (the kink-fic fans) could have consoled themselves that I was "narrow-minded" or some-such nonsense, and they could have assured each other that all opinions are equally valid regardless of merit (except, of course, for the opinions of *stupid* people who disagree with *them*). But that's not how it went down. How it went down is that I talked about fic in terms that were *in-your-face* multilevel -- pointing out in language that could not be misunderstood that there are levels of depth and complexity far above the simple, gratuitous (BORING) titillation of lower chakras. For this I got death threats, and now certain proudly unilevel kink fans are going around *bragging* about writing unilevel fic about Methos. ("I'm so glad I'm a Beta; Alphas have to think too hard!")
4) Multilevel interpretation of unilevel stories particularly upsets authors of said stories, who know damn well that *they* didn't put in that kind of stuff in, and the last thing they want is to be accused of complexity. After all, THEY just wrote a long, random, free-association string of a story (linear) and tangled it up like a ball of yarn (because they're not, after all, very organized thinkers) and then some unsuspecting, intelligent person happens to come along looking for depth, mistakes the tangled yarn for layers, and unjustly picks on their poor, defenseless story by saying nice, glowing things about it, and praising layered text and deep insights the author knows damn well she didn't put in. After all, what's a sheeple to DO, you know?
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These are actually quite lovely. I have some on the window in the guest bathroom.
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Do you hear that? That's my brain making the sound of ultimate suffering.
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She's smoking some major crack, yo.
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cos drugs are bayad...
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Poor us.
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As you can see, I have no comment on that theory.
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*snogs back*
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Otoh: We can't understand her -- we're robopaths, after all.
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I think you've been amazing actually..
..She's so fucking rude about you in that post. I'd have gone stark raving bonkers and sod the admins on ROG-L.
Infact is she doesn't get booted for this from ROG-L then I may sacrifice my own membership just for the satisfaction of really putting the boot in..
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